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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: a woman composing pieces for Chopin? Reply with quote

I remember that I read somewhere I while ago about a woman from England I think, who claimed that she could speak to dead people.
She claimed that she'd spoken to all the great composing, she said that Beethoven had gotten his hearing back and so on.
Also she composed pieces she claimed Chopin told her, anyway it was a time ago I read this and I don't remember so much, but someone here perhaps know more and can tell us more about it?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This link might be to your interest.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~wichm/Chopin.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow... Shocked
Couldn't someone just have recorded the voice though? We can't really tell if it really is Chopin.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now... Chopin hardly knew any English... Was said in the book Chopin's Funeral. I think it's crap...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt languages being problems for a ghost hehe.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone heard Rosemary Brown's recordings on CD or similar ? Never managed to locate these, either to be impressed by the amazing compositions or for pure amusement value.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyone heard Rosemary Brown's recordings on CD or similar ? Never managed to locate these, either to be impressed by the amazing compositions or for pure amusement value.


"Chopin" - Etude Ges-dur
http://www.romana-hamburg.de/Chopin.mp3

"Debussy" - Danse exotique
http://www.romana-hamburg.de/Dexotique.mp3
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fryderyk wrote:
I doubt languages being problems for a ghost hehe.

I doubt that this is not merely a fraud. In other words, being the reasonable deistic fellow that I am, this is probably a hoax.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John_Hamby wrote:
Helling wrote:
Anyone heard Rosemary Brown's recordings on CD or similar ? Never managed to locate these, either to be impressed by the amazing compositions or for pure amusement value.


"Chopin" - Etude Ges-dur
http://www.romana-hamburg.de/Chopin.mp3

"Debussy" - Danse exotique
http://www.romana-hamburg.de/Dexotique.mp3



Hmm i guess being dead diminished Chopin's abilities somewhat.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Debussy one is somewhat catchy. Maybe I should learn that and post it on pianosociety as Debussy through Rosemary Brown, or Rosemary Brown with the help of Debussy. Then again maybe not. Wink

Of course, she (her family etc) should have no copyright to these pieces then even if she hasn't been dead for 70 years, as after all Debussy has been and she didn't compose them so... Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helling wrote:
John_Hamby wrote:
Helling wrote:
Anyone heard Rosemary Brown's recordings on CD or similar ? Never managed to locate these, either to be impressed by the amazing compositions or for pure amusement value.


"Chopin" - Etude Ges-dur
http://www.romana-hamburg.de/Chopin.mp3

"Debussy" - Danse exotique
http://www.romana-hamburg.de/Dexotique.mp3



Hmm i guess being dead diminished Chopin's abilities somewhat.


My thoughts exactly. The Debussy is not all that bad; however, I'd expect something much better from his "immortal soul".
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the etude supposed to show anyway? How to play like a 5 year old or how to play with your nose?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helling wrote:
Whats the etude supposed to show anyway? How to play like a 5 year old or how to play with your nose?


I read somewhere that when she did some Liszt stuff he didn't give her the titles right away (maybe not at all) so I wouldn't be surprised if she named them herself. Therefore it might not be an etude at all. It's continuous and flowing though like a lot of Chopin etudes (the moto perpetuo kind of thing) so if it wasn't meant to be named that I can see why a musically uneducated person (such as herself, supposedly) would call it an etude. She also said something to the effect of the spirits or whatever kind of taking her over while playing some of this stuff (I think), so perhaps she really has no basis for judging its difficulty if she in fact knew what an etude was.

Just a thought.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm or maybe spirits have a more difficult time playing the piano, so the etude seemed really difficult to Chopin when playing it through her hands, but it would only be difficult to entities currently possessing a host, not to normal pianists.
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