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Max
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philip Daniel wrote:
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I think Schubert was taught theory by Salieri.

Yes, that's right--Schubert and Beethoven and possibly Liszt, believe it or not.


Thank God he didnt influence them as a composer, eh... Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I think Salieri is very underrated (and Mozart very overrated but that's another matter).

On the topic, I wonder if any of you are Salieri experts enough to know whether he has composed any keyboard only works.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes he has composed smaller pieces, but very few of his works have survived.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any idea where to find any sheet music for these? No matter how small a piece?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt the existence (or survival rather) of any Neutral
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grr I have to find them and record them for our pianosociety. So we can get a Salieri entry. There are the variations that Mozart wrote on mio caro adone, but that would go under Mozart and not Salieri.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/store/smp_detail.html?sku=SM.58-34&cart=33147973482684423&searchtitle=Sheet%20Music&s=s1

I am not sure if this is for piano solo, but schaum is a piano-only publisher as far as I know. at least it is cheap.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fryderyk wrote:
Yes he has composed smaller pieces, but very few of his works have survived.

After he died the only work of his to stay within the repertoire of many oropera houses was his opera The Danaides, first performed in 1784. The opera is today considered a masterpiece, his only masterpiece. It is exceedingly influenced by Gluck. Interestingly, he was one of the cofounders of the Academy of Music in Vienna.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard Les Danaides and I think it is very good. I just wish I found some scores for piano of anything he ever composed.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helling wrote:
Grr I have to find them and record them for our pianosociety. So we can get a Salieri entry. There are the variations that Mozart wrote on mio caro adone, but that would go under Mozart and not Salieri.


Yes I have spent quite some time trying to find pieces of him (well I havenīt done any deep research). But the piece "he" is playing in Amadeus, is it one of his own compositions?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the movie, that march he wrote for Mozart's arrival, wow, that was bad. Luckily Mozart came to the rescue.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An!ma` wrote:
Philip Daniel wrote:
Max wrote:
I think Schubert was taught theory by Salieri.

Yes, that's right--Schubert and Beethoven and possibly Liszt, believe it or not.



That's right, I've always read that Salieri taught Liszt theory.


https://chopinmusic.net/forum/composer.php?c=liszt , paragraph 2

So it's true... Cool

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In the movie, that march he wrote for Mozart's arrival, wow, that was bad. Luckily Mozart came to the rescue.


Not sure if that's actually by him, but in a scene when they first show him teaching the emperor and they are playing some four handed piece. You can't hear much of that but at least it sounds more like a decent classical piece.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helling wrote:
JBJ wrote:
In the movie, that march he wrote for Mozart's arrival, wow, that was bad. Luckily Mozart came to the rescue.


Not sure if that's actually by him, but in a scene when they first show him teaching the emperor and they are playing some four handed piece. You can't hear much of that but at least it sounds more like a decent classical piece.


Yes, that was the one I was thinking of. I wonder what it is.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we should start researching and mailing Amadeus producers. Wink

We can lead the way to a renewal of the Salieri the keyboard composer.
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