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Fryderyk
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 4:02 pm    Post subject: Ashkenazy + Chopin = ? Reply with quote

What do you think about his Chopin?

I have grown up listening to Ashkenazys recordings of Chopin and I must say I love his simpleness and clarity.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the most part, I find Ashkenazy's Chopin dull and too "Russian-y" compared to the performer *I* "grew up" (though I'm not an adult) listening to: Arthur Rubinstein, who everyone seems to hate nowadays. I'm also not a fan of Horowitz's Chopin...

Though I have to also say that I like Ashkenazy's Rachmaninoff and Shostakovich, and no one else seems entirely impressed by them.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ashkenazy and Rubinstein are my two favorites! Both wonderful Chopin interpretors Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amnesia wrote:
Ashkenazy and Rubinstein are my two favorites! Both wonderful Chopin interpretors Very Happy


I agree!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ashkenazy is what most consider a "decent Chopin" interpretor.

He's recorded the complete works of Chopin, but the quality is definitely not consistent. That said, younger Ashkenazy supposedly murders mature Ashkenazy.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The later Ashkenazy recordings sound very clumsy and haphazard at times.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like stated above - I prefer some Ashkenazy more than other Ashkenazy. Nonetheless, his Etudes are pretty good and he does seem to have good clarity and speed. However, I would pick Pollini, Cziffra, Rubinstein or Zimerman before him anyday.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cziffra's Chopin etudes ROCK! But unfortunately he didn't do TOO much Chopin besides that...the waltzes, some polonaises, the latter sonatas, and a scherzo or two...oh, and his Fantasie is wonderful. That said, I agree that his Chopin is terrific. I have that EMI video, which includes the Heroic Polonaise, the 2nd scherzo, and....an extremely touching rendition of the Gb Impromptu....beautiful.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Ziff's Chopin is very good. I regard his 2nd Sonata rec as the best Chopin recording ever.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I haven't listened to much Chopin for....eh....a VERY long time (except for some of Cziffra's interpretations) but I agree the 2nd sonata is incredible. Have you heard his F minor Fantasie? Beautiful (though I consider Rubinstein's even better).

Btw, I must say that I just love Ashkenazy's Allegro de Concert--his recording made me like the piece, which is often regarded as one of Chopin's worst.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ashkenazy's recording of the Ballades and Scherzos from the 1960's are kick-ass. Very Happy

edit: most of his earlier recordings are better than the later ones, actually.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jake wrote:

edit: most of his earlier recordings are better than the later ones, actually.


True. His old etudes are way better than his new, you should give them a try, if you havenīt.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goldberg wrote:
Arthur Rubinstein, who everyone seems to hate nowadays.


Why is dat?

...and how can u not like Horo's Chopin? Nobody plays the mazurkas better than him...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got Ashkenazy's Waltzes, priceless. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

His CD with Chopins nocturnes is surprisingly good.
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